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here. i'll tell you in a minute on florida, but welcome back to our special second hour of "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's see where we stand this hour and how the president night. the president put together a decisive victory last night. falling short of the votes he won in 2008 against john mccain. but he had 303. romney 206. florida's are still on the technically remain too close to call. miami-dade county is counting 20,000 absentee ballots they tell us. that's what they're counting right now. that's in miami-dade. that largest chunk of vote. if that breaks away the way they're going, it's impossible. i guess nothing's impossible. president obama is going to get that one too. it'll be 323 electoral votes when all is s if you will. i want to go to ohio because ohio was a big deal at the time. what was interesting here is where the margins were. it was all wasn't -- this was reduplicating the map.
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here's what the county map looksnow. i'll go to 2008. if anything, he did better in coal country as you can see. and you see the blue goes away over here. romney did what he had to do. he ranthe problem is right here. it was margins inuyahoga plus underperforming with whiteey working class men in the auto belt here. these two areas also swing. and those swing for mitt romney as well either. he kep up the margins in his home turf but hehe swing areas. one of the interesting things about the s this stayed president. jefferson county with the president. washto county stayed with the president. do4íwn here.nty in florida stayed with t of theq4 few large swingties off brown was a game of margins, if you will. speaking of other counties in louden county, prince william virginia, the suburbs get bigger outside of washingtona currentou qrwill h6÷ republican party. after for the presidency it was not the night mitt romney had hoped for.
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msnbc's chris jansing is outside headquartersboston. it's eerie how quietis. you. that way they thought this was going to >> andx@m you had spent almost seven years for president. it wasin about five minutes. a short cu&oncession speech. but that was preceded, chuck, by to be bizarre minutes where the media barack obama. and some for mitt romney said they would contest there. got in his van and returned to the hotel. there was a question even when was coming over here to make remarks whether it speech. about an hour and a half after the networks called it theit came into this for what i said was a very brief and very gracious final comment. so after one of the most -- the expensive presidential race in history and one acrimonious, mitt romney unity. >> the nation asw is at a critical
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at a time like this we can't risk p posturing. our k to governments at all level7q >> well the interesting thing was i got on the elevator t heard conversation, chuck, to that exacmney was talking about. one said well held the gentleme to hang on to our convictions. so and of course the postmortem as well. what happened here last night for mentioned the 47% video. they debated whether the center moved there at all. and hu people who i talked to a they were leaving this ballroom weree changer for the president. having just been in ohio for five days and talking folks obviously the auto bailout but in wisconsin and michigan keys here. but in theend, it was a night mitt romney where of those hotly contented battleground states. >> chris, it was interesting to me the governor sent a messageh to his supporters that say st. they would be so stunned they
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square. it does look least in that room and the supporters in k? that they know they lost and i think in minutes after, we heard the s mcconnell and this confusion for an hour a was is this going to get nasty before it was truly over? i have to say one ofd when he came out was to praise the lady and the two.h girls.pplatñ here. and people were but i i think they understood that this was a solid win for the president and move forward >> chris now let's move overbama wakes up this morning as a member okaf a very caesidents who ver there at the white house christine welker joins me from oba's campaign headquarters. it's kind of empty behind you do we come to washington, d.c., number and number two, what's thele? do we kno cliff your first questionll be retu to the white house this aftwe
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fiscal cliff, you're working t in fact, n her agenda to so that is the level of importance that the cliffof course last night's to that. president obama talk about the going to at t gotten a lot of criticism for that forhat he set out to do which was to do exactly that.3f to work he essential tol americmessage. he's going to dojob. take a listen to what he had us to focus on and in the coming weeks and months, i am lookingng with p meeer.and, v$chuck, the other thing i found interesting about his speech last only talk about bipartisan spoke of thi he wanted to accomplish during his second term. one of those things immigration reform. he got a lot of critici theration reform, not getting the dream act tion t latinos clearly played a his i think we'll see h a fair amount of time to. it was electric when he spoke. >> hee a prediction now. i bet you ends up g insenate.ans will run not walk intrc/
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pete stark. that forever. he's not coming back. ward#g richardson. getting robert dold.biggt, bobby schilling, joe awalsh. leonard boswell lost. in republicans charlie ousted 6÷ incumbentsents larry lvania democrat mark critz and it,p chandler may lose. ran for the time a row against andybarr. each other. benay mayn. which may be bad news for mitch mcconnell. i'll explain in a minute.;z job you're mitch mcconnellr re-election. >> it'll be see how the minority handles politics heading into his oelection as you just eluded to. >> he's in a vice grip. he's got a p challenge he was worried about.
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>> here the thing about mitch cconnell. hes a smart political the way. >> i'm going to talk about 2016 minute. i don't know how much mitch mcconnell is able to be a good republiche right toeadyear? this r sure he gets all blame for blame to go know senator cornyn probably will get some of the blame. some of the bl:same indi things. i mean you can't rea himtñ" mourdock said.oes in there and it happens. >> it's a difference between the the most challenge inside to mcconnell isro t you these disastrous candidates from his right. it doesn't seem there'sn obvious path f do think that theo sort tea party movementroadly defined will have to these occurred -- >> you think jim to step back.
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>> if youbé look at the outside groups who really egg there's a lot of sou searchin on. republicans would control the senate today we may nothhgreen with lugar but they would like to have him today. >> presidentould have won re-election and democrats would have potentially lost it not been for as steve schmidt called it lack a doodle congress. >> while it's a problem for republicans, no doubt for women it's not just one comment that mourdockwomen, i'm telling you it is real. women felt it. e angry. they were angry it went on and on and on. and so in some of this election is women vote. i'm on the board of pro c in battleground for the first time to women access to abortion a higher --
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>> i want to talk about- well but let's go to for 20 years the democrats have been run from the abortion issue trying to get all of a sud the t went too nr one end -- >> don't forget the access to birth control kicked it off too.se issue by the way. >> it was quite sara. >> it wasn't. it'sicanrystrict access to birth really? >> here's the thing. i don't think -- i think democrats are way overreading this. this whole women's thing. this war on picked up some voters election about the economy. and the economy's improve b. points in the last year. unemployment is down. was re-elected. >> i want to change the topic. i want to talk about leader of the republican party. who is it? >> i don't think we know who it is. >> technically it's speaker boehner. >> inhington it's speaker boehk it's a jump ball. cted and watched a little bit. but it's a crop of rising youngoing
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to say is marco rubio the de facto that every donor say out a statement last night that was interesting. it's like here's what we need the republican party to do. it wasn't the sortf thing speaking broadly to his party w need to reach out tominorities. and i think that's -- i mean it was an unusual move i think for a relatively junior senator to put out this defining statement.ren, you assume that three of the four candidates for president and vice president in 2016 will not be white men. >> i think that's probably true. and i think whoever runs for president is ner going to they to fundhese other issues. >> but part of the reason you'll see m candidates is because the republicans actually have a deep bench on this.jindal marco rubio, susana martinez. >> all right. well we will table this discussion. just table it. weore of it later. next history was made last
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night involving marriage $ we're breaking initiatives with peteams. you're watching a special two-hour edition "the daily rundown." if the folks in colorado have woken up, who knows what they're smoking this morning. whatever it is, it's all legal. we'll be we're going to try to stump some political junkies with questions from bing elections. do you know where your pol maybe somewhere around my house. well you can find out exactly where it is using bing elections. it's a good day for politics. which way do you lean politically? conservative. republican. well, using the bing news selector you can find news from whichever way you lean. (together) social on this side financial. which party is currently predicted to win a majority in the senate? the repu would you make a bet on that? no.ken?
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well all eyes are the race for white house and senate voters also decided the fate of more thanlot some of the most closely watched dealt with me-sex marriage four states voting on whether to legalize or ban it. and history was made last night on that front. nbc news pete williams joins me live from washington. all right, pete. walk me through because there were sort of -- there were sort of negative versions of the same-sex marriage ballot initiative and more affirmative ones. walk me through the four >> you said history was made. it was made in two ways. first of states became the first in america to legalize same-sex marriage by popular vote. where in the other states it's been done by the legislature or the courts. now a vote of the people. and the other thing is the marijuana thing. that also made history. let's look at same-sex marriage first. maine and maryland were the first states to approve same-sex
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marriage. now this brings to eight states the number where same-sex marriage is legal. legalized same-sex marriage last night. there was a separate referendum in washington state. we don't know the results of that yet. there are still mail in ballots. and the other is minnesota. there was an amendment to ban same-sex marriage in the state constitution. that was defeated. but same-sex marriage is still illegal there as a matter of state law. now, on marijuana. two s liberal marijuana laws than any country in the world. colorado and washington state have now legalized recreational -- >> shocking. so seattle and boulder. okay. sorry. >> they have legalized re of marijuana. this means when this is all set up, you can go to a state licensed store and buy marijuana in the store, a small amount. an ounce and a half or
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something. and smoke it at home. in colorado you're able to have up to six plants. this was the amendment to legalize marijuana this is recreational marijuana. right. >> right. this is colorado and in washington state. now, there was a separate matter to approve recreational use of marijuana as well in oregon. in fact it was the most liberal. there were no limits in this law. and i think it was simply too liberal for its own good. a couple of other states were voting on medical marijuana, joining the extensive lists of states that approve it. it passed in massachusetts. massachusetts approved medical marijuana. but arkansas said it wasn't ready for that yet. it was defeated in arkansas. >> two quick questions, pete. is this the last election that we will have same-sex referendum on the ballot? because the supreme court's speak on this issue. >> well, i don't know. i mean i wouldn't b guarantee
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that. the supreme court is certainly going to rule this year on the federal law called the defense act. the supreme court is also going to take up the prop 8ng how they rule on it it may be good for california only. it may apply nationwide. one other quick one, chuck. california defeated a proposition that would have done away with the death penalty. >> also the marijuana laws aren't there federal laws that trump state laws here? how does this work? >> well there are whether they will trump them in i think what's going to happen here is the federal government is going to turn a blind eye to the recreational use of marijuana in these states as long as people don't abuse the state law and have enormousç amounts. as a practical matter federal drug agents don't want to prosecute people for an ouncea. e spshlspecially in a state it to happen. and it's telling that several former drug agents several
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former people who ran dea asked the justice department to oppose these measures and it wouldn't. >> pete williams with all things ballot initiatives and the legalities of them all. thank you, sir. before we run to break, i got to show you this. the markets are way down this morning. europe was driving this we were told.drop. we like this in a couple of months. 242 points and counting. dow might dip below 13,000. we'll see. we will keep monitoring that for you. demographics were destiny last night. the president had the edge and republicans have a demographic dilemma. jewelian castro joins me next. you're watchingdaily rundown" only on msnbc. 30 minutes to go before my nap. iew up in alaska. it's the cleanest clearest water. we find the best sweetest crab for red lobster that we can find. [ male announcer ] hurry in to red lobster's crabfest! the only time of year you can savor 5 succulent crab entreesdollars. like a half-pound of tender snow crab paired with savory grilled
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of whites fell by two points again. it's been a consistent trend. it went from 74% down to 72%. looking at florida there was a -- look at this. a fouroint drop in the soters since 2008. there was a four point drop in the share of the white vote in ohio since four years ago. made up mostly in the voters. the racial composition of the electorate in virginia was identical to what it was in virginia national popular vote again is going to be looks likeq; right on the nose. the closest state to the national popular vote is going to be virginia. right now i want to bring in the keynote speaker at the national convention julian castro. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> demographics are destiny. in the state of texas, is it a
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battleground statewell i hope that it will be. you know texas made some good strides in this election. of course it's solidly red. in fact we have 29 statewides 29-0 republican to democrat right do think that in 2016 it's going to get closer. and certainly by 2020.have a hint of that except when you look at who they've nominated, they've veered off very far to the right. so i think that what's going to happen for texas republicans is that they're losing the business community and the the next two, foñur, six years that's probably going to catch up with them. i'm not sure t yet. because they've had the rule of the roost since the mid-90s. >> what do you thinkdent obama owes the hispanic community? to me he owes when you look at s re-election. i mean it was he
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carried among hispanics.e state of florida. i could go on you've seen the math. you know the numbers as well. what does the presidentor the hispanic community since they were there for him? >> well there's no question at the hispanic community came out we'renr seeing numbers ranging from 71% to 75%. vote 1996. but hispanics are like everybody else in the united states. they care about the economy, health care, but of course what it means is hopeful that the president and the congress will take up the dream act and take up reform 2014? >> i am not. i'm going to be here in san antonio. >> you'reourself out. >> i'm not. >> you're going to stay focused or running for member of congress. what -- it's not a very popular bodyo. what advice do you have for him 9: now that he's headed to washington, d.c.? >> the first thing i told him was that he could have it.
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but aside from that he's looking fo his colleagues there. every time we have one of these from the american people. and the statement tha last night was that they want folks to work together. and so i'm hopeful that with regard to the republican house that they're going to be willing to compromise more. and that goes both >> do you think that's themessage? the message democrats should take away from their successes last night is a message of bipartisanship? >> well, not just democrats. the democrats and republicans and i believe the party has -- over the last couple years. when mitch mcconnell said his goal was to not get president obama re-elected. but folks did re-elect him. they want compromise.?( want both parties we'll get that tested soon. >> yes, we will. san antonio mayor julian castro.thanks for coming on this morning. >> thank you. up next the alws quotable
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i have just sent the following telegram to president nixon. congratulations on your victory. i hope that in the next four years you will lead us to a time of peace abroad and justice at home. >> good evening, my fellow americans. >> a telegram. i guess now it would be an e-mail. it's interesting it wasn't a phone call. daily flashback. this day in 1972 when president nixon won in a to make a concession call because he figured the telegram would be easier. by theway, the late george mcgovern has this yoet. apparently he was asked when do and mcgovern said when do you get over losing the presidential governor responded i'll let you know when i do. sorry about that governor romney. but that is last night marked the fifth time in six elections that republicans lost the p vote for president. for president obama heafrican-american voters 71% ofromney won white
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evangelicals with 78%. here had to say0e about ts breakdown. >> we're a diverse nation. we should be a nation where both political parties appeal to all of the people in this country. when the candidate for the republican party says i will veto the dream act, it isike a dagger t voters akros america. >> i want to bring in meet the press analyst mike murphy. good morning. >> good morning, chuck. >> i want to ask, whos presidential race? mitt romney or the republican party? >> well both. i mean they're kind of et good candidate. the problem is there's levels of failure in this thing. the biggest thing is demographic. i wrot three and a half years ago called the coming the republican party. i'm wearing my sweater today. it's getting colder and country's changing and the people our party to is a
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static group. that's a recipe for extinction. the question is whether or not we're going to have an adult conversation inside the party about our need to attract more people than grumpy old white guys. and the policy problems with gay marriage and immigration reform. mike you hear all the -- but you're going to like these quotes. susan collins says we have to recognize the demos in this country. marco rubio, the conservative movement should have a particular appeal to immigrant minorities. need to work harder than ever before to communicate our beliefs to them. and yet your party still holds primaries, doesn't it? i mean this is the issue. it's the primary process that creates the special interest race to the right. does it not? >> it does. both parties do. if the president had a primary this year somebody against him if they were famous enough.
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i've said for a long time the incentives in our primary are disconnected from winning a general election. not all our primary voters are as movementcerned ae the activists. our free market in the primary need to answer that. and kind of the heart and soul of the activist wing of the republican party is in total denial about this. the question is how many elections we have to lose. hopefully not more because time#x is running out. >> what do you tell speaker when he's got a sort of a built in majority right now thanks to redistricting and so many house republican incumbents won in comfortable areas. they have their cozy sweaters on. the ice age is happening in other parts. they don't have to worry about it because their maps got and that's just -- that's what
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created these problems the first time. todd akin's a house republican. >> well a huge dis-- now senate politics. we got clobbered in senate races. but senate and presidential politics have become completely divorced from congressional politics. with maybe two dozen exceptions and it doesn't matter what happens. so they're in these igloos on both incentivized to tilt to the special interests that drive their primaries. one last thing. go ahead. >> who's the leader of the republican party this morning? >> you know, there's going to be a slug fest to find out. it's going to be a slow process. we've got tribal information in the party. and this knowledge of losing tomorrow is going to be a huge shock to people. they're going to think what america is this. everybody i know voted for romney. rasmussen said we were almost always ahead. we have too? shatter that.
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and finally we've got to form the operative class of the republican party. we've had two presidential elections now that were strategic train wrecks. we've lost the ability to+ know how to appeal beyond our base mechanically. it's time for a shakeup. we used to be better than the democrats. they're now better than us. just like this israeli army it's time for brutal honesty inside our party. >> you've just given us a nice conversation to kick off. mr. murphy i will talk to you down the road. hello, panel. sara, how about that brutal honesty about the operative class? well, you at least get to say hey i was on you're'04. >> i was on '04. >> how right was he? i go back to the same question. who lost this election mitt romney or the republican party? >> he's right. they're interlinked. but, you know mitt romney in many ways was a bridge candidate to a changing republican party. you look at the deep bench
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rubio, tedcruz susana martinez. it feels really dark today, but there is a bright side for and we're going to have some great faces moving forward. >> the dark agess in '64 meant they weren't going to win -,k/ another presidential election until 1968. four years later. i mean these things do have a way of the democrats. >> and 2016 will be a changed election of course. i think we're going to have a little bit of a break until then, but what a fascinating race on both sides. democrats and republicans. but i think in terms of who won the election or not, better campaigns -- >> when is the better campaign lost in a presidential? right. i me wants to fully admit it. i know. >> but bad winning better candidate. >> bush won, i guess. >> when you lose it's always the finger pointing. but i would say tonight republican friends having been there in january of 2005 i've got a book of talking points
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i'll send you. same question. who's thy, what do you stand for. sure. you saw mike taking a shot at stu stephens who ran romney's campaign. there'e at let this go because i'm focused on presidential why not? we've talked about the different -- we know the republicans. the first one to iowa. you say jindal will beat to iowa. that he's first? is the democratic race all about just waiting for hillary? >> yes. absolutely. >> all you new yorkers think you're going to control this. >> here's how that waiting is going to work. people likey will say we're going to run no matter what. >> and then the runs. >> maybe. >> and if she runs they to get out of the way. >> joe biden has been blatant about it. he called up the new new hampshire governor and is having fun with this. >> he's been saying all along -- >> and nobody's believed him.
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>> i don't think that democrats have to get out of the way.ple is 2007. i mean i do not think -- a, i'm not convinced she's going to run. i think she will not run. >> how about i think she thinks she's not running. but i'm not convinced. >> that's a good way to put it. >> she may think today. but i think it's going to take a bit of time to think about -- >> i think the day of clearing the field is over. people are going to run. >> for hillary in particular particularly again -- >> first woman president. i don't know. i'm with you, karen. i think she might be the last one that could do it. a white male candidate make an argument to the electorate that -- the >> you know what? new yorkers and the state of iowa. has roots in iowa. >> hickenlooper there's a bunch of hickenloopers buried in iowa. trivia.
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since 1900 how many democratic presidential nominees in a general electiontwice? the answer is four. here's the tricky one. william jennings bryan. he won virginia in 1900 and 1908. he just never won the presidency presidency. we'll be right back.
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